Q & A

Questions & Answers

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Here’s a good reference, the Canadian Team Cattle Penning Rule Book.

Q: How many shows do I need to ride at to qualify for BC Finals?

A: You must have ridden at 4 BCTCPA sanctioned shows to qualify for BC Finals. 2 of which must be Club Shows (March & April). Qualifying classes include: Open/12inc, 10/8inc, 7, 5, 2+ and Youth. If you rode at a “Double Header” show you must have ridden both days in the classes that ran both days in order to count as two shows (Open/12inc, 10/8inc, SR/JR Youth). If you rode in a class (such as the 2+, 5 & 7 classes) that only ran on ONE day of the Double Header weekend, that will only count as ONE qualifying show.

Q: Do I need both a Canadian AND a BC membership even if I’m not planning on going to Nationals?

A: YES! The Canadian Team Cattle Penning Association (CTCPA) is our governing body and they hand out the rating tags. You’ll need to know your rating number to make teams and enter your classes.

Q: How many shows do I need to ride at to qualify for Canadian Nationals?

A: You need 5 shows to qualify for Canadian Nationals. Qualifying classes include: Open/12inc, 10/8inc, 7, 5 and Youth. Note: BC Finals and Calgary Stampede Shows do not count as qualifying shows.

Q: What exactly is a “Double Header” Show?

A: Double Header shows are run as two separate shows on each day of a penning weekend. However, not ALL classes are run on both days. In order to qualify with 2 shows on a Double Header weekend, you must ride a min. of one team both days in a class that runs both days. ie. enter in the Open/12inc, 10/8inc, SR/JR Youth BOTH days.

March & April Club Shows are Double Headers (one show each day) and therefore count as 4 separate shows, IF you ride in the classes that run both days (Open/12inc, 10/8inc, SR/JR Youth). If you ride in a class (such as the 2+, 5 & 7 classes) that only run on ONE day of the Double Header weekend, that will only count as ONE qualifying show.

Q: How many times can I enter in the Open Class?

A: Any rating combination of riders can ride in the Open Class. The BCTCPA rule for 2017 is that you must enter a minimum of 1 pick team, with the option to enter upto 5 more entries, your choice pick/draw, max. 6 entries.

Q: Can you please explain the Incentives?

A: The Incentives are in fact, not classes. They are an incentive run within a class, such as Open/12inc and 10/8inc. These are pick team entries, no draws, cannot exceed max. entries. The “incentive” is an additional fee on top of the class entry fee. This is put in to a separate “pot” from the overall class payback. If you place in the Incentive, the payout is based solely on the incentive pot amount. However, an incentive team may also place in the class, meaning that you would receive a payout in both the class and incentive.

Q: Can you please explain the handicap?

A: The handicap is based on a 1/2 (half) second off the run time based on the team combined rating. The Open/12 incentive class offers a handicap based on a max team rating of three #7 riders for a total of 21. Each team entered calculates their handicap based on 21, minus their team rating total. For example a combined team rating of 5 (21-5=16/ 2=8sec) would have 8 seconds taken off their time. This applies to all teams entered in this class.

Q: How many picks/draws can I do in the 2+ Class?

A: This class is pick 1/draw 1 or all draws. For each pick team you enter (two #1 riders and PLUS rider), you are automatically entered on to a draw team.
Alternatively, you can just enter draws if you do not have pick teams to enter. Your TOTAL team count (pick and draw teams) cannot exceed the max. entries for the class.
The PLUS riders (#3 and up rated riders) are randomly entered on to the DRAW teams.

ie. If you enter 3 pick teams you will also have 3 draw teams for a total of SIX teams.

Q: Does the 2+ Class count as a qualifying class for BC Finals?

A: Although this is a non-sanctioned class, it does count as a qualifier for BC Finals (not Nationals).

Q: What are the age divisions for Senior and Junior Youth?

A: The Youth Class has two divisions. Junior Youth riders are 12 years of age or under as of January 1st (a show year is from January 1st to December 31st). Senior Youth Class riders are 13 to 16 years of age as of January 1st.

In the Junior Youth class two youth must ride with one adult. The adult must be 18 years of age or older. The change out of the rider in the Junior Youth class must be a Youth. In the Senior Youth class all riders are Youth. No cross-entries between Junior and Senior Youth classes are allowed.

Q: How many times can I enter the Youth Class?

A: Both Junior and Senior Youth Classes are all draws (no picks), max. entries depending on show.

Q: Can I enter the same team in the Open Class and 12 Incentive?

A: No, you cannot enter the same team in Classes that also run Incentives, such as the Open/12inc, 10/8inc or 5/3inc. Although they are entered as separate classes in the online entry system, these classes are essentially ONE class as they are run together at the show. You must change out at least one rider.

Q: What are levies and how are they paid?

A: At a BCTCPA sanctioned show, there is a $2.00 BCTCPA levy per rider for each team entered in all classes. If it’s also CTCPA sanctioned there is a $1.25/rider fee collected (on sanctioned classes) for a total of $3.75/team that is paid to CTCPA.